Handicap

2024/2025
Handicap Committee Chairman: Ness Cohen
Handicap Committee:
Jack Boysen
Dick Suzlbach
Bud Slobodian
Dick Alway

7/30/24:
Men’s Club Members:

The Handicap Committee monitors score posting habits on a regular basis but it is very time consuming.

Score card posting process steps:

Check the USGA GHIN website to see if you posted your score(s).

Check to see if your posted score is correct.

Place your score card(s) in the boxes at the pro shop or front desk at the club house.

It is EXTREMELY important that you post all your scores.

If you don’t post your score you might get a 72 posted by the handicap committee.

Starting next year (2024-2025 season), the handicap committee is considering restricting regular non-posters from playing in events and tournaments.

 PVCC Men’s Club Board Handicap Committee Policy Changes:

1.     All rounds must be posted to GHIN by midnight on the day the round is played!

2.     The Handicap Committee is charged with ensuring that each member’s handicap index accurately reflects his demonstrated scoring ability.
         To accomplish this goal, the Committee must be certain that a member records each postable round on an accurate and timely basis.

 3.     If, after investigation, the Handicap Committee finds that a Member has been repeatedly violating the above score posting requirement
         (without valid reasons) the Handicap Committee may issue a Penalty Score(s) equal to the lowest score of the Member’s last 20 posted rounds.

i.             The Member will be informed of the Committee’s decision

ii.            The Member will have 72 hours to submit a written appeal to the Committee

iii.           The decisions of the Handicap Committee shall be final.

4.   If the above Member repeatedly fails to comply with the Score Posting requirement under Section 1 above, the Committee may take additional disciplinary actions’ including withdrawing the Member’s handicap index, adjusting the Member’s handicap for a specific event, or disqualifying the member from future events.

i.            The Member will be informed of the Committee’s decision

ii.           The Member will have 72 hours to submit a written appeal to the Committee

iii.          The decisions of the Handicap Committee shall be final

5.  Note – The Pro Shop personnel must keep, per American Golf, an accurate account of Tee Times. If your play yields an “Unacceptable Score” for posting, please leave your name on the Tee sheet. When reviewing your posting the Handicap Committee will handle these scores with the individual member.

6.   An “Unacceptable Score” is when:

  • You are playing by yourself
  • You are not playing by The Rules of Golf. i.e. a practice round or an instructional round.
  • You have not played enough holes to post (a minimum of 14 holes for an 18 hole posting or 7 holes for a 9 hole posting
  • Page 2: GHIN (Golf Handicap Index Number) REVIEW FOR PVCC MEN’S CLUB MEMBERS

    2021 – The SCGA and USGA adopted the new World Handicap System (WHS)

How the World Handicap System affects you:
● You must post your scores the day you play – before midnight local time – the SCGA computer system updates overnight and gives you a fresh GHIN calculation the next morning
● Your GHIN calculation uses the best 8 scores out of your last 20.
● ESC (Equitable Stroke Control) has been replaced by Net Double Bogey. This is from the SCGA/USGA Rules of Handicapping 

A Player is expected to: 
1. Act with integrity, follow The Rules of Handicapping (ROH), and refrain from using or circumventing the ROH for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage.
2. Attempt to make the best score possible at each hole
3. Submit acceptable scores for handicap purposes as soon as possible after the round is completed & before midnight local time
4. Submit acceptable scores to provide evidence of their Demonstrated Ability
5. Play by The Rules of Golf
6. Certify the scores of other Players 

 Adhering to #3 above will circumvent 99% of the many Penalties and Adjustments available to your Handicap Committee, which may be applied to your GHIN.

Note: The Handicap Committee never wants to impose any of these penalties!

This is simple – Just make posting your golf scores a habit as soon as your round is over! 

Subsequent emails will attempt to answer our member questions regarding details of posting and situations we are all confronted with on the golf course and how to properly handle them. So please stay tuned. 

The PVCC Men’s Club Board of Directors completed streamlining and clarifying our Penalty Issuing Policy.
The new policy is available at http://www.pvccmensclub.com – Handicap Header

Score Posting Issues Part 2:

FORETEES:

 Last month’s email stressed the accurate & timely posting of scores, (same day you played).

Note: Any active member can use the same tool the Handicap Committee uses.

This indicates if a member is posting or not.

 ·        Sign into ForeTees.

         View the top menu bar.

          Hi-Light ‘Handicaps’ and click on ‘View Handicaps and Scores’.

         Then click on ‘Peer Review Reports’.

  • Enter your name, or any fellow member’s name and you will see what the Handicap Committee sees. How many times a member has posted out of his last 20 times his name was on the PVCC Tee Sheet.
  • ForeTees syncs up your GHIN score posting with your appearance on the PVCC Tee Sheet. 
  • HOW TO INCREASE THE ACCURACY OF FORETEES PEER REVIEW SCREEN:
  • When you post to GHIN:
  •  If you forget or cannot post the same day you played – when you finally do post:
  • CHANGE THE DATE TO THE DAY YOU PLAYED!
  • Don’t use the date you’re posting for yesterday’s round.
  • If you play the Masters Tees one day and the Whites the next, etc., you must change the tees when you post. The default tees are the last tees you played, not the tees you played today! 
  • Please post all rounds played at PVCC as “HOME” rounds. 
    • Even if you are a member of another club back north, the SCGA allows Seasonal Players to use their Desert course as their “HOME” course during the season.
      If you post PVCC rounds as “AWAY” those rounds will NOT SYNC with the PVCC
      ForeTees software.
    • When you sign up on ForeTees:
    • If you know you’re only going to play 9 holes, sign up for 9 holes. There is a little box on the screen when you make your tee time – check it. If you sign up for 18 holes, and only post 9 holes, the score will not sync with the Tee Sheet.
    • If you are playing a late day non-postable practice round or instructional round with your significant other, or if you are playing by yourself, there is no reason for you to have your name on the Tee Sheet. Or, if you’re on the Tee Sheet, call the proshop and ask them to remove your name from the Tee Sheet when you’re finished.
    • If you do the above, you will increase the accuracy of your postings and you will increase your percentage of postable rounds to be more in line with the Men’s Club average.  

Scoring Issues:

“MOST LIKELY SCORE”

A large share of our Men’s Club Tournaments and many of our daily and weekly “games” are Best Ball events and games. And part of our club culture puts an emphasis on pace of play. This leads to a lot of opportunities to “pick up” and to not hole out. Because our partner has won the hole, or because you are out of the hole. And because you don’t want to slow your group down. SO, WHAT SCORE DO YOU PUT ON YOUR SCORECARD?

The USGA/SCGA GHIN system wants you to post your Best Ball rounds and uses the “Most Likely Score” when you don’t hole out.

  • When you pick up within 5 feet of the hole, add one stroke to what you lie.
  • When you pick up between 5 feet and 20 yards (60 feet) from the hole, add 2 – 3 strokes to what you lie.
  • A guide: if you’re on the green, within 20 yards, and you pick up, add 2 strokes.
  • If you’re chipping within 20 yards and you pick up, you can add 3 strokes. The USGA says when you’re between 5 feet and 20 yards, and you pick up, whether you add 2 or 3 strokes depends on the position of the ball, the difficulty of the green and the ability of the player.
  •  NET DOUBLE BOGEY:

If you know what Net Double Bogey is, and how it replaced ESC or Equitable Stroke Control on January 1st 2019, then please read no further. If you don’t know, in order to post correctly, no matter what your Handicap is, then read this short explanation.

The now defunct ESC and the new Net Double Bogey both have the same purpose – to control the upward movement of a player’s GHIN when he has a few really bad holes per round. If the gross score on these horrendous holes wasn’t limited, a player’s GHIN would go sky high, and he’d be getting too many “POPS” and he’d be close to unbeatable in Best Ball competitions.

A Net Double Bogey is the highest score anyone at any Handicap can take on any one hole!

WHAT IS A NET DOUBLE BOGEY?

Scoring a “Net Double Bogey” only applies when you make a Triple bogey or worse.
Let’s use a Par 4 as an example.:

  • Non stroke hole – Net Par is 4, Net Double Bogey is 6. Score a “7” or higher you post a 6.
  • Stroke holes – Net Par is 5, the max Net Double Bogey is 7. An “8” or higher, you post a 7.
  • If your GHIN and Course Handicaps are high enough to receive 2 handicap strokes on a Par 4, then Net Par becomes 6 and Net Double Bogey becomes 8.
  • A “9” or higher you must post 8.
  • The math for Par 3’s and Par 5’s:

Review your scorecard at the end of a round.

·        If you had a triple bogey, quadruple bogey or more, reduce your gross score on any hole you scored higher than a Net Double Bogey and that new adjusted score is the score that you post.

·        If you post your score hole-by-hole on GHIN, the GHIN system will make the calculation for you.

We hope you all find the above helpful.

Our goal is to get as many of our PVCC Men’s Club Members have accurate handicaps.

If you have any questions, please reach out.

Thank you, 

Ness Cohen and the PVCC Men’s Club Handicap Team 

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